Comments for LorMarie.com http://lormarie.com Freethinking as it's meant to be Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:58:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU Comment on Black Women, AIDS, Reality by WBMT http://lormarie.com/2008/08/17/black-women-aids-reality/#comment-552 WBMT Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:54:59 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=475#comment-552 Video produced a couple of weeks ago made in direct response to racial/Statistical claims made by the CNN Documentary and to coincide with Pearl's piece: http://wbmt.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/black-in-america-and-hiv/ Video produced a couple of weeks ago made in direct response to racial/Statistical claims made by the CNN Documentary and to coincide with Pearl’s piece:

http://wbmt.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/black-in-america-and-hiv/

]]> Comment on Black Women, AIDS, Reality by LorMarie http://lormarie.com/2008/08/17/black-women-aids-reality/#comment-549 LorMarie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:16:40 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=475#comment-549 To all future participants in this thread: I will delete all comments that attempts to tarnish, disparage, or stereotype any race or gender as it relates to this or any other disease. This is a sensitive topic that has caused stress for too many people and I won't play into the racist hype. So if that is your purpose, go elsewhere. If you have something constructive to add, feel free. To all future participants in this thread:

I will delete all comments that attempts to tarnish, disparage, or stereotype any race or gender as it relates to this or any other disease. This is a sensitive topic that has caused stress for too many people and I won’t play into the racist hype. So if that is your purpose, go elsewhere. If you have something constructive to add, feel free.

]]> Comment on Black Women, AIDS, Reality by LorMarie http://lormarie.com/2008/08/17/black-women-aids-reality/#comment-548 LorMarie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:40:22 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=475#comment-548 WBMT, Thanks for writing. While the primary mode of transmission is via unsafe hetero contact, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/women/resources/factsheets/women.htm, there clearly are other ways to get this dreadful disease. The link I have provided includes the most recent info that I can find. High risk hetero contact is the "method of transmission" at roughly 74% of <strong>infected</strong> black women, Injection drug use is a close second at about 24%. The data also shows that <strong>infected</strong> white, Asian, and Latina women get it from high risk contact most of the time (to be specific, 65%, 80%, and 69% respectively). It also shows that those who are infected represent an extremely small sample of each population. <strong>In other words, the vast majority of all black men and women in America do not have HIV/AIDS.</strong> That is also the case with nonblacks in America. Thus, the reason why it is futile to inject race into this discussion as so eloquently shown by Pearl Jr. All that leads to are false perceptions of facts and racial stereotyping. In fact, I don't get into it myself. The scariest method of transmission by far is via blood transfusions or anything related to the medical field. At least it is the scariest for me. WBMT,

Thanks for writing. While the primary mode of transmission is via unsafe hetero contact, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/women/resources/factsheets/women.htm, there clearly are other ways to get this dreadful disease. The link I have provided includes the most recent info that I can find. High risk hetero contact is the “method of transmission” at roughly 74% of infected black women, Injection drug use is a close second at about 24%. The data also shows that infected white, Asian, and Latina women get it from high risk contact most of the time (to be specific, 65%, 80%, and 69% respectively). It also shows that those who are infected represent an extremely small sample of each population. In other words, the vast majority of all black men and women in America do not have HIV/AIDS. That is also the case with nonblacks in America. Thus, the reason why it is futile to inject race into this discussion as so eloquently shown by Pearl Jr. All that leads to are false perceptions of facts and racial stereotyping. In fact, I don’t get into it myself.

The scariest method of transmission by far is via blood transfusions or anything related to the medical field. At least it is the scariest for me.

]]> Comment on Black Women, AIDS, Reality by WBMT http://lormarie.com/2008/08/17/black-women-aids-reality/#comment-547 WBMT Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:37:18 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=475#comment-547 http://wbmt.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/thecdc/ AIDs infection data summary through 2004 for Black Women http://wbmt.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/thecdc/

AIDs infection data summary through 2004 for Black Women

]]> Comment on Black Women, AIDS, Reality by LorMarie http://lormarie.com/2008/08/17/black-women-aids-reality/#comment-544 LorMarie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:49:49 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=475#comment-544 EbonyIntuition, Exactly, we can't assume that a guy is "safe" no matter what his background. I should also add that if a guy doesn't volunteer a condom, don't trust him. EbonyIntuition,

Exactly, we can’t assume that a guy is “safe” no matter what his background. I should also add that if a guy doesn’t volunteer a condom, don’t trust him.

]]> Comment on Black Women, AIDS, Reality by Ebony Intuition http://lormarie.com/2008/08/17/black-women-aids-reality/#comment-543 Ebony Intuition Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:59:19 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=475#comment-543 Women need to take control of their sexual health and always protect themselves and always get tested and make sure their partner is tested too.. Women need to take control of their sexual health and always protect themselves and always get tested and make sure their partner is tested too..

]]> Comment on Newsflash! Teachers Will Be Allowed To Carry Guns To School This Fall.. by Ebony Intuition http://lormarie.com/2008/08/18/newsflash-teachers-will-be-allowed-to-carry-guns-to-school-this-fall/#comment-542 Ebony Intuition Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:57:59 +0000 http://lormarie.com/?p=486#comment-542 Wow, guns are not needed at a school. Wow, guns are not needed at a school.

]]> Comment on Was Ahaziah 22 or 42 When He Became King? by LorMarie http://lormarie.com/2008/08/19/was-ahaziah-22-or-42-when-he-became-king/#comment-541 LorMarie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:00:17 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=507#comment-541 Although the time interval between 2 Kings 12:3 and 4 is unknown and the verses are separated by a paragraph mark, the command that Joash issues to the priests in verses 4 and 5 is unlikely to have come from a pre-adolescent child. Therefore, if repair of the temple is high on Joash's priorities as king, which is a distinct possibility, 2 Kings 12:4, 5 support the conclusion that Joash comes to the throne of Judah as a young man of 20, although he begins to reign as a 'spare' king aged 7. Note further that although Joash's siblings are of "the seed royal" 2 Kings 11:1, 2 Chronicles 22:10, Ahaziah may have given Joash the kingdom and his brothers gifts, if Joash is the eldest, as 1 Kings 22:26, 2 Chronicles 18:25 imply, just as his father Jehoshaphat before him gives his eldest son Jehoram the kingdom and Jehoram's brothers gifts, 2 Chronicles 21:3. Thus, Joash would have been a 'spare' king aged 7, 2 Kings 11:21, 2 Chronicles 24:1 but not necessarily his brothers. Again, this analysis appears to satisfy all the relevant scriptures. Conclusion In sum, the two passages, 2 Kings 8:26, 2 Chronicles 22:2, do admit of an explanation, even if convoluted, in the KJB as it stands, as indeed do all the associated passages. It cannot therefore be charged with error in this respect. Note in passing the abundance of seed plots etc. for TV and movie dramas etc. in the above passages. The KJB is the basis for all of these. Alan O'R Although the time interval between 2 Kings 12:3 and 4 is unknown and the verses are separated by a paragraph mark, the command that Joash issues to the priests in verses 4 and 5 is unlikely to have come from a pre-adolescent child. Therefore, if repair of the temple is high on Joash’s priorities as king, which is a distinct possibility, 2 Kings 12:4, 5 support the conclusion that Joash comes to the throne of Judah as a young man of 20, although he begins to reign as a ’spare’ king aged 7.
Note further that although Joash’s siblings are of “the seed royal” 2 Kings 11:1, 2 Chronicles 22:10, Ahaziah may have given Joash the kingdom and his brothers gifts, if Joash is the eldest, as 1 Kings 22:26, 2 Chronicles 18:25 imply, just as his father Jehoshaphat before him gives his eldest son Jehoram the kingdom and Jehoram’s brothers gifts, 2 Chronicles 21:3. Thus, Joash would have been a ’spare’ king aged 7, 2 Kings 11:21, 2 Chronicles 24:1 but not necessarily his brothers.
Again, this analysis appears to satisfy all the relevant scriptures.
Conclusion
In sum, the two passages, 2 Kings 8:26, 2 Chronicles 22:2, do admit of an explanation, even if convoluted, in the KJB as it stands, as indeed do all the associated passages. It cannot therefore be charged with error in this respect.
Note in passing the abundance of seed plots etc. for TV and movie dramas etc. in the above passages. The KJB is the basis for all of these.

Alan O’R

]]> Comment on Was Ahaziah 22 or 42 When He Became King? by LorMarie http://lormarie.com/2008/08/19/was-ahaziah-22-or-42-when-he-became-king/#comment-540 LorMarie Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:53:09 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=507#comment-540 Joash's Age as King of Judah Finally, the age of Joash, son of Ahaziah, 2 Kings 11:2, 21, 2 Chronicles 22:11, 24:1, would not be 7 when he ascends the throne of Judah after Athaliah is slain, 2 Kings 11:20, 21, 12:1, 2 Chronicles 22:12, 23:1, 24:1 if, as must be the case, he is the Joash of 1 Kings 22:26, 2 Chronicles 18:25. However, he is said to be 7 "when he began to reign" 2 Kings 11:21, 2 Chronicles 24:1. The explanation is as follows. If he is, say, a one-year-old infant in the 19th year of Jehoshaphat or the 22nd year of Ahab, he would be 7 when Jehoshaphat dies at the end of his 25-year reign. See discussion on 1 Kings 22:26, 2 Chronicles 18:25 above, under Ahaziah a 'Spare' King - in Israel. According to the above chronology, therefore, Joash would be 13 at the end of Jehoram's reign and at the time of the death of his father Ahaziah, at the end of his one-year reign (both deaths coinciding roughly with the death of Joram king of Israel in the 12th year of his reign, 2 Kings 3:1). Could a 13-year-old still have a nurse? It is possible, given that Deborah, designated as Rebekah's nurse, still accompanies Jacob's family 20 years after Rebekah's son Jacob has wives, sons and daughters, Genesis 31:38, 35:8, 37:35. (If so, note that this analysis yields a possible reason why apparently minor, inconsequential details, such as Genesis 35:8, are sometimes recorded in scripture. Nothing is wasted in the Lord's words.) This would make Joash about 20 years old when he actually ascends the throne, 2 Kings 12:1, 2 Chronicles 24:1, not 7. The only explanation is that, from age 7, at the end of Jehoshaphat's reign, Joash is also a 'spare' king, just as his father Ahaziah has been a 'spare' king, from the age of 22 but further removed in the line of succession than his father is. Given the high mortality rate amongst the royal houses of Israel and Judah as the above study shows, the designation of 'spare' kings is understandable for those times. Alan O'R Joash’s Age as King of Judah
Finally, the age of Joash, son of Ahaziah, 2 Kings 11:2, 21, 2 Chronicles 22:11, 24:1, would not be 7 when he ascends the throne of Judah after Athaliah is slain, 2 Kings 11:20, 21, 12:1, 2 Chronicles 22:12, 23:1, 24:1 if, as must be the case, he is the Joash of 1 Kings 22:26, 2 Chronicles 18:25. However, he is said to be 7 “when he began to reign” 2 Kings 11:21, 2 Chronicles 24:1.
The explanation is as follows.
If he is, say, a one-year-old infant in the 19th year of Jehoshaphat or the 22nd year of Ahab, he would be 7 when Jehoshaphat dies at the end of his 25-year reign. See discussion on 1 Kings 22:26, 2 Chronicles 18:25 above, under Ahaziah a ‘Spare’ King - in Israel.
According to the above chronology, therefore, Joash would be 13 at the end of Jehoram’s reign and at the time of the death of his father Ahaziah, at the end of his one-year reign (both deaths coinciding roughly with the death of Joram king of Israel in the 12th year of his reign, 2 Kings 3:1). Could a 13-year-old still have a nurse? It is possible, given that Deborah, designated as Rebekah’s nurse, still accompanies Jacob’s family 20 years after Rebekah’s son Jacob has wives, sons and daughters, Genesis 31:38, 35:8, 37:35. (If so, note that this analysis yields a possible reason why apparently minor, inconsequential details, such as Genesis 35:8, are sometimes recorded in scripture. Nothing is wasted in the Lord’s words.)
This would make Joash about 20 years old when he actually ascends the throne, 2 Kings 12:1, 2 Chronicles 24:1, not 7. The only explanation is that, from age 7, at the end of Jehoshaphat’s reign, Joash is also a ’spare’ king, just as his father Ahaziah has been a ’spare’ king, from the age of 22 but further removed in the line of succession than his father is.
Given the high mortality rate amongst the royal houses of Israel and Judah as the above study shows, the designation of ’spare’ kings is understandable for those times.

Alan O’R

]]> Comment on Was Ahaziah 22 or 42 When He Became King? by LorMarie http://lormarie.com/2008/08/19/was-ahaziah-22-or-42-when-he-became-king/#comment-539 LorMarie Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:51:07 +0000 http://rainedrops.wordpress.com/?p=507#comment-539 As indicated, several of these offspring could have been the "divers" victims of Jehoram's massacre. The remainder of the princes of Israel in Judah (i.e. if not already in Israel, i.e. Samaria) must then have escaped north to Israel from Jehoram's massacre to seek the protection of Joram king of Israel, although only to fall victims of Jehu's purge. But before their deaths, they must have fathered offspring, which could have been anytime, roughly, following Jehoshaphat's disastrous alliance with Ahab. See comments above on 2 Chronicles 18:1, 2 under Ahaziah, Jehoshaphat and Athaliah. Since these escapees are princes of Israel, they may have been designated princes of Judah after the joint Arab-Philistine invasion, which eliminates all of Jehoram's natural sons, 2 Chronicles 21:17, 22:1, to help make up for the catastrophic losses to the royal household of Judah inflicted by the invaders. Note again that as Ahaziah's brethren through Jehoshaphat and Athaliah, they could be princes of both royal households, i.e. Israel and Judah, by birthright. Because note that Jehu's victims, according to 2 Chronicles 22:8, include "the princes of Judah, and the sons of the brethren of Ahaziah," i.e. Jehu accounts for the offspring of the surviving brethren of Ahaziah as well as his brethren. Ahaziah's brethren, their sons and their servants could therefore easily account for the 42 slain by Jehu, 2 Kings 10:14, without using the term "brethren" figuratively, as suggested above. Ahaziah's sons survive but not for long, 2 Kings 11:11, 2 Chronicles 22:10. It is possible that their mother (or at least mother of Joash and his brothers), Queen Zibiah, 2 Chronicles 24:1, escapes to her home, Beersheba, in the remote south. The above analysis, therefore, appears to be consistent with scripture, with respect to solving the apparent anomaly of Ahaziah as Jehoram's only surviving son, 2 Chronicles 21:17, even though Ahaziah has "brethren" 2 Kings 10:13, who should also have qualified as Jehoram of Judah's sons (step-sons) via his marriage to Athaliah. Alan O'R As indicated, several of these offspring could have been the “divers” victims of Jehoram’s massacre.
The remainder of the princes of Israel in Judah (i.e. if not already in Israel, i.e. Samaria) must then have escaped north to Israel from Jehoram’s massacre to seek the protection of Joram king of Israel, although only to fall victims of Jehu’s purge. But before their deaths, they must have fathered offspring, which could have been anytime, roughly, following Jehoshaphat’s disastrous alliance with Ahab. See comments above on 2 Chronicles 18:1, 2 under Ahaziah, Jehoshaphat and Athaliah.
Since these escapees are princes of Israel, they may have been designated princes of Judah after the joint Arab-Philistine invasion, which eliminates all of Jehoram’s natural sons, 2 Chronicles 21:17, 22:1, to help make up for the catastrophic losses to the royal household of Judah inflicted by the invaders. Note again that as Ahaziah’s brethren through Jehoshaphat and Athaliah, they could be princes of both royal households, i.e. Israel and Judah, by birthright.
Because note that Jehu’s victims, according to 2 Chronicles 22:8, include “the princes of Judah, and the sons of the brethren of Ahaziah,” i.e. Jehu accounts for the offspring of the surviving brethren of Ahaziah as well as his brethren.
Ahaziah’s brethren, their sons and their servants could therefore easily account for the 42 slain by Jehu, 2 Kings 10:14, without using the term “brethren” figuratively, as suggested above. Ahaziah’s sons survive but not for long, 2 Kings 11:11, 2 Chronicles 22:10. It is possible that their mother (or at least mother of Joash and his brothers), Queen Zibiah, 2 Chronicles 24:1, escapes to her home, Beersheba, in the remote south.
The above analysis, therefore, appears to be consistent with scripture, with respect to solving the apparent anomaly of Ahaziah as Jehoram’s only surviving son, 2 Chronicles 21:17, even though Ahaziah has “brethren” 2 Kings 10:13, who should also have qualified as Jehoram of Judah’s sons (step-sons) via his marriage to Athaliah.

Alan O’R

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